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For All Mankind - AppleTV Plus


What if the Soviet Union beat the Americans to the moon? That's the plot of the AppleTV+ original series, For All Mankind. In this episode, Andrew recaps the first season of the show and how actual historical events served as inspiration for this fictional story. Season 2 of For All Mankind premieres on AppleTV+ on 2/19/21.

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...budgeting between two hundred and fortyto three hundred million dollars per season. I have to imagine that thebudget for this show was somewhere in that ball park. So what it is is a showthat asks the question of what might have happened if the Soviets landed onthe moon before the Americans. As you guys may be aware, Apollo Eleven firstlanded on the moon on July, Twentiete, nine tuneen and sixty nine and in thevery opening scene of this series. We see the Soviets put a man on the Moonon June, twenty sixth one thousand nine hundred and sixty nine, so one fullmonth before Apollo elevens mission, we see the Soviets put a man on the moonand what that does is that creates a ripple effect throughout history andchanges a lot of key historical events that have happened that really alterthe course of American and world history, and I want to try to dive intoas much of that as possible. But before I do, I have to warn you we're going toget into spoiler territory. So if this is a show that you're interested in,but you don't want any spoilers, then turn off the podcast now and watch theshow. But before we get into any spoilers,one of the things that I want to talk about is one of the key components thatI think makes the show work incredibly well and that's the way that they usehistorical figures and real life. People to tell these fictional storiesright. So the Apolo space program was a hugething in the s and the S, and it's been covered across multiple media channels,multiple TV shows and movies and books. In fact, I think even Disney plus islaunching their own. Take on the Apollo Space Program called the right stuff,which is going to be a mini series about the mercury, seven astronauts andwe're going to get into them a little bit later, because some of them arereferenced in for all mankind as well. But it's a big deal in American historyand I think you can't tell those stories without referencing the namesof the people who were involved. So you have people like Gean Crantz, who wasthe flight director at Mission Control for Apollo Eleven and Apallo thirteen.You have names like Deek Slayton, who wis the crew chief, that assignedastronauts to their missions and one of the original Mercury, seven astronauts.You have the obvious names like neeal, Armstrong and Bozalder, and the firsttwo men who actually landed on the moon. You can't tell these stories of theNASTA space program without mentioning those names. It'd be like trying totell the story of like Peter Pan Without bringing up Captain Hook Right,it's just not possible. I mean they even made a whole movie about it. It'scalled a hook, it's a fantastic film but anyway. So what I really like aboutthe show is that when you look at other historical shows or shows that tellstories about something that might have happened in history, you have the names of the people thatwere involved in those events, but they're, often just that they're justnames or they show up as a cameo later on and sometimes don't even have anydialogue, and instead the shows focus on this fictional band of charactersthat is apparently more involved in and more entrenched in the story than wereled to believe now. Most of the time, these storiesare fictional, so these characters haven't really existed and it's reallythe named characters that we don't see or only see as a person and not assomebody with any dialogue. Those are the ones that are really driving thestory forward, but with this show, since it's an alternate history, theseare all made up stories, there's no source material or anything that reallysets the foundation for this other than there was a space program in the S, andwe were racing with the Soviets to see who would get to the moon first, butoutside of that...

...the show literally changes directionand were uncharted territory in the first five minutes of the program, so it'd be weird to sort of continue downthat path without having people like Gean, crantand, Diek, slayten and BuzzAldron all show up as characters, and I think this show does that really well,because not only are they just characters in the first episode ormentioned by name, but these are people that you grow attached to and grow tolove and care about, throughout the whole ten episode first season. These are people that are integral tomoving the plot of these fictional stories forward, and I think that itwas incredibly well executed and I think it was a perfect choice for theshow runners of this show to do that now. That said, you can also argue thatthese real life people also become fictional versions of themselves,because we get situations that they've never been put into in real life, forinstance flight control, director Gean Crante. He is still alive and well in twothousand and twenty, I think he's in his S. right now and in the show in theback half of the season, we actually see him get promoted from missioncontrol to the Johnson Space Center and he's on a launch pad waiting for a Palotwenty three to take off when a faulty part explodes killing him eleven othercrew members and the three astonauts inside the rocket. So while h t that event obviously neverhappened, we've still been attached to that character and it's still sad tosee him die or at least think about a possible future where he could havebeen killed. So it's a really unique perspectivethat the show brings to history, and I really like it, and I think it worksincredibly well for this first season. The shows already been renewed for asecond season which I'm super excited for. They droppd the trailer duringcomicon back in July, and I've got four words for you guns on the moon. I'm excited to see how it pans out. I think it's going to be really reallyintriguing, but that's just one of the things that the show brings to thetable is just the innovation of what might havehappened if the space race never stopped, because when we landed on the moon, we sort ofsaid okay like we made it, and the space program continued for a littlewhile and it just. I don't think as much of the pushforward. remaind, for example, real life, the firstAmerican woman in Space Wash Sally Ride, one thousand nine hundred and eightythree in the show. We see that after the Russians put the first man on themoon, the first woman lands on the moon again a Russian cosmonot and thatforces NASA to start a search for their own female astronaut candidates, and weput a woman on the moon decade before Sally ride ever goes into space O I inhousand nine hunered and seventy one. We see the first American female landon the moon and I think that's really cool to think about that this mighthave happened. Another thing was midway through theshow when I was watching NASA had made an announcement in real life that theyfound ice on the light side of the moon, and while I thought that was cool, we see in the show that NASA discoverswhat they think is ice on the moon and we set out to find that ice. So themission of Apollo fifteen was to find a landing site for Apollo Sixteen to getmoon and harvest moon off the ice or yeah moon off the ice harvest. Ice offthe moon- or, I guess mine, because it's not really harvesting right so,but what winds up happening is a pall...

...of fifteen lands on the moon. They godown into a crater and they find ice, and this discovery of ice winds up, leading to US establishing athabitation module on the moon two years later: One USAND, nine hunered andseventy three. So in one thouand, nine hundred N. seventy three in thisalternate history, Americans put the first habitation module on the moon andname it Jamestown base. So, yes, I thought it was a very cool referencethat they named it after the first settlement in the Americas, but this isall stemming from the Russians beating us to the moon right and you thinkwellwhy. Why didn't we continue to do this? And one of the reasons that theshow gives for that as a possibility is that after the Russians beat us to themoon, Nixon winds up pulling the troops out of Vietnam early so that NASA canhave more funding. So they funnal money away from the American military inVietnam and give it to the space program so that we can find thesefemale candidates so that we can further the space program and makethose advancements that we need to make in order to continue to beat the Russians or try to beat theRussians and not be second best to them right, and I thought that was a reallyinteresting concept, because I know Vietnam is a very controversial topicin a lot of different circles. Some people think we should have pulled outearly. Some people are very adamant about you know being there and we'renot even going to get into that topic past that point, but yeah. It's a really interestingconcept for a show, and I really liked a lot of what they did. Another changethat we see to American history is that Ted Kennedy winds up running forand winning the presidency against Nixon. So we see a world where TedKennedy might have actually become president and as many people who mighthave wanted to see that it's actually, you know it's laden with its own drama, becausewe see, as he was campaigning, he moved one of the Nasza contracts toa different state and a different manufacturer for one of the parts ofthe Apollo Twenty three rocket and that faulty manufacturing is what winds up,causing the explosion that kills Gean crantzs and the elevenother crew members and the astaurants inside. It also leads to another faultycomputer part that causes an engine to missfire on Apollo twenty four, andwhen Apollo twenty five has to go up and execute a rescue mission. It creates an entire turn of eventsthat winds up, killing off Deek Slayton, who again has another alternate story in this timeline. Now the realDEEC Latan. As I mentioned, he was one of the original mercury. Sevenastronauts and the Mercury seven underwent very rigorous physical andpsychological training to see if they can handle space, and these men wereselected and deeks. Laten, unfortunately, was not cleared forflight duty due to heart conditions. Now all of that backstory is accurateand while in real life, deeks laten eventually made it up into space in onethousand nine hundred and seventy five as part of a joint American Sovietspace program. In the show we see that he startsgetting ancy, so he has flight doctors, clear him for flight and he assignshimself to the crew of Apollo Twenty Four. So he goes up into space and wehave this computer mafunction that causes the rocket to missfire and whenApollo, twenty five goes up to execute the rescue mission. The rocket fires,but deak is still outside of the cabin...

...attached to his tetherline as therocket just blasts off into space and is projected to miss the moon by athousand miles. And what winds up happening is that a pieceof shrap no cuts through deeks suit and punctures his abdomen, and he winds upbleeding out and dying in space in one thousand nine hundred and seventy four.So it's a not very pleasant way that he goes out and I am actually kind of sad about the waythat they handled it to, because he is up there with a woman named EllenWaverley. Who is keeping the big secret that she is homosexual and that wasapparently a big? No! No because they felt that, if you could lie about that,then you were susceptible to blackmail from the Soviets and you could becompromised into giving away secrets for the space program to the enemiesand when she's up there with deek. She finally reveals her secret about thehomosexuality and he starts laughing because he thinks it's a joke and shekind of says like no. It's not a joke and he's like you've got to be kiddingme like. I wish you hadn't said anything and he gets really angry andthat kind of made me upset, because here he is dying and he's still holdingon to his very like archaic way about him and eventually he he does kind of sort of offer up an apology. He kind of turns to her as he's dying,and he says you know that thing you told me don't tell anybody else, because there's too many people like mein the world, so in a way, I guess he's acknowledging his own shortcomings butat the same time I kind of said that he didn't really acknowledge and acceptthe fact that she's different and that you know she's still an astronaut she'sstill here, she's still the exact same person that she was, but I've kind of went off on on tangent.At this point, that was one of the things I disliked about what they didwith deeks character, but the rest of the show. Honestly I loved it. There was one other moment that I wishwe salf fleshed out a little bit more, and that is the whole reason thatApollo twenty four is going up. There is to relieve one of the otherastronauts, Ed Baldwin, who is currently living at Jamestown base onthe moon, and what they don't know is that Ed Baldwin is on the moon withsome Russians who have also established a habitation base at this point, andone of the Russians has come to Ed for oxygen because he's not going to makeit back to his base in time his doxygen reserves are going to run out. But whatEd does is he winds up kidnapping the Russian and sort of holding him hostageand when he gets contacted by NASA for this rescue mission after Apolo? Twentyfour gets knocked off course. He has to enlist the help of this Russianastronaut named Mickal to to get the lemb service so that hecan fire it off the surface of the moon and sort of tow Apollo twenty four intoorbit and Wewe see the Russian astronaut help himout and then, as Ed, is taking off the Russian cosmonot mckail sort ofturns towards James Town base. And you see, you see the base reflected in hisvisor and this really ominous music starts to play and and then it cutsaway, and I wish they would have fleshed that moment out a little bitmore. I wish there would have been repercussions to eds actions becausehe's the only American on the moon right now and he just left and left hisbase open, and I kind of hope that they pan that out into season two, I'm not ahundred percent sure that they're going to do it because at the end of seasonone there was a ten year time jump. So...

...we see sort of the post credit scenetaking place. I ione thousand nine hundred and eighty three ait is safelyback at home with his wife Karen and they really dive into the s version of the space race. So thetrailer even has the sweet dreams are made of this song plain in thebackground. We see ED, driving a corvette and is very, very ts, it'sinteresting, but I wish they would have fleshed that moment out a little bitmore. I wish there would have been some consequences of eds actions there, butagain I don't want to dive too too much into the plot of this show, becausethere's a lot of it. What I thought was really cool was the the fictionalcharacters that they develop specifically for the show they're sortof the main characters, while still getting t the maincharacters and the plot driven forward by these Gean crants and Diex Slayton, but we really focus on Ed Baldwin andhis wife, Karen and his best friend, Gordo and Gordo's wife Tracy, and wesee how their lives are affected by all this. So it really not only touches onthe NASSA space program in general, but it really tries to humanize it andbring it down to a personal level that we can be attached to so there's thethemes, as I mentioned, of homosexuality. There's themes of familythere's themes of like PTSD, not only from some of the characters who erereturne from Vietnam War, but also the psychology of like living out in space.Like that's got to take a toll on somebody, and we see all these different elementsthat play, and I thought it was woven together very, very well. I'dprobably give this series like four or a four and a half out of five. As Isaid, there's there's only those couple of minor things that I wish would havebeen executed a little bit differently and I'll end with this, because theshow I've seen come up in a lot of articles about it that it tends to be more hopeful thanother alternate history. depictions of life and I'll have to say that I agreelike yes, there were some, you know upsetting moments and some not so nicemoments in the show. But it's not like this overall dark ominous feeling that,like we're living in a very you know, Soviet heavy society andeverybody is hailing the motherland, because the Russians landed on the moon.First, it's not bad at all. You know you take a look at shows like man inthe High Castle, which is very ominous. You take a look at shows like thehandmaid's Tal, which I've heard some not so pleasant things about just interms of what the plot of that show actually is. But this does offer alittle bit of hope that we see okay, we might have lost the moon, but look howmuch we've gained in terms of technical advancements and innovation andcontinuing to push the boundaries, and I think that's something that a lot ofpeople have resonated with, because you know the last moonlanding was inthe s. You know what have we done sincethen. Even the space station kind of got stalled out, so that's my take on for all mankind. As Isaid, if you're interested in the show, I would definitely check it out. If youdon't have apple TV plus, you might not have an iphone or an eydevice at all, but I would check out your smart tv if you've got one. Thereare some smart TVs where you don't actually need the apple TV device orany sort of apple product. For example,...

I have a Sam Song, smart tv, but AppleTV. The APP is available through that TV's Appstore, so I'm able to hook upmy itunes library to it and watch apple TV plus right from my TV. So it'sdefinitely something to think about. If you have an apple device and youkeep getting a notification to try apple TV plus for a year free,definitely do it if that's still an option. I highly encourage you to takethe free subscription watch the content that's on there and then I would signup to renew for five dolars a month. It's literally fivedolars in yourgetting stories that you can't get anywhere else and I think it's a reallyneat service to have so I'm excited to see what they do with season. Two offor all mankind. I'm excited for more original apple, TV plus content. Youguys can expect more of that from me on this show and yeah. That's it thanksfor tuning in for season to or I'm sorry for thanks for tuning intoepisode to, if you guys have any ideas for shows or movies. That you'd like meto review for future episode of Podflicts and chill message me oninstagram. You can find me at podflicx and chill that's podflix. The letter NDchill shoot me a message. Let me know how you like the show so far. Let meknow what you want me to do for future episodes and be sure to hit thatsubscribe button wherever you're listening to this be sure to tell afriend about it, because that's the only way we're going to grow thi showinto something big and if you feel so inclined leave us a review whereveryou're listening to this, so that we might be able to rank a little bithigher in the listing, but until next time I am Andrew thanks for tuning in,and this was podflixs anchell.

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